When Pastor Pam was led out of the Denomination she was ordained in and served in for 25 years, she waited 3 years for the Lord to show her where to go to resume her ministry. She had no idea the Lord had no intentions to send her to a church service again, until He spoke to her in 2007. While Pam waited to hear from Him, she wrote 3 books. After the Lord spoke, she wrote 4 more books and has begun to publish other authors. To review the books, click here.
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It is certainly not easy to leave the organized church, even when you have been spiritually abused by her. This is part one of a series of videos—a testimony shared by a minister of 30 years whom the Lord led out. The full testimony of Rev. Pamela Sheppard can be found in her profound and enlightening book “Come Out of Her, God’s People: Don’t Receive Her Plagues.”
An autobiographical non-fiction book, in “Come Out of Her, God’s People,” I interpret my 3 decades of churchgoing primarily within the title’s context. The facts of what happened to me within a mainline denominational African-American church remain constant. However, my interpretation has changed over time. For the first 25 years, I believed that God sent me to the Denomination to be an integral part of bringing repentance to that particular bureaucracy. In this hour, I believe that a counterfeit religious entity sent me to church in 1979, in hopes that through much trial and testing, I would lose my salvation and curse God for allowing me to be both rejected, spiritually abused and deceived. The devil failed miserably.
My own ministerial life is merely presented in the book as a tiny iota of a huge puzzle—a microcosmic illustration of a much broader, worldwide, endemic problem that really began in the 4th century, once Christianity became “organized”. The book is less about me and much more about the words of Jesus, as recorded in Revelation the 18th Chapter, verse 4: “Come out of Her, My People, that you be not partakers of Her sins, lest ye receive of Her plagues.” In the final analysis, the truth of this book is based upon whether or not I have rightly interpreted who the Lord is referring to as “Her.”
Some Christians have interpreted the metaphorical pronoun of Revelation Chapter 18 as a nation, with America as the prime candidate. In fact, I know of American eschatologists who are now ex-patriots, having re-located to Canada. On September 11, 2001, I too made a wrong assumption, as I watched on TV the destruction of the World Trade Center. With the fall of both towers in an hour, my bible was opened to Rev.18, verses 8 to 10, specifically “for in ONE HOUR is thy judgment come.” So I first interpreted the feminine pronoun as symbolizing New York City. I told quite a few of my friends to “come out of Her,” and move to either upstate NY or another state.
So I know firsthand that it is a lot easier to make a wrong interpretation of a symbol than it is to make a correct one. In my case, as time unfolded over the next 9 years, especially with the publication of my 4th book, “the Fake Jesus: Fallen Angels Among Us,” I began to have some serious doubts about my original interpretation that “Her” was a geographic location like a city or a nation.
My spiritual awakening was both gradual and sudden simultaneously. Gradual, in that for 25 years, I knew there was a reason why “church was not working,” but I rationalized that “anything that humans are involved in will be imperfect, and that includes the church.” Yet suddenly, the truth hit me like a bright light in the face of a deer. I was in shock. Then I shook. With the final tremble, I quickly regained my spiritual equilibrium. I have put decades of delusion and deception behind me, and I continue to press on to deeper levels of truth which I share herein.
The interpretation of biblical metaphors and other symbols is certainly not an exact science. It is so easy to wrongfully assume that the literal is meant to be symbolic and in reverse, that the allegorical should be taken literally. Quite frankly, it hit me real hard that the “Her” could be the entire organized church–not Catholicism alone–but the entire thing. Protestants are quick to point their fingers at the religious idolatry of Catholics, presenting ALL of itself as the one true church. Yet, let’s face it. Catholicism is the tree and its fruit is Protestantism including all of its various branches and sects. The bible confirms that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. For as Jesus Himself taught, if the tree is corrupt or evil, so is its fruit. (Matthew 7:18,19)
With each chapter of the ebook “Come Out of Her God’s People”, I am metaphorically standing outside of a burning church building shouting, “Come out! It is on fire!” Therefore, those with an open, rational mind will at least perceive how I arrived at the conclusion that attending church in the endtimes is a dangerous thing to do. Certainly, if we are not living in the last days, perhaps today’s churchgoers are safe. Nevertheless, when you finish this book, I will be satisfied if at the least you have asked yourself “do I really want to take that chance?!!!!!”
The salvation of souls is the job of the Holy Spirit. So it stands to reason if souls are not being saved in chuch, then He must not be there. As a pastor within a well-known denomination for 25 questions, it never crossed my mind whether or not the Holy Spirit was actually there. The question was raised in my mind through my profession as a licensed counselor.
What I am consistently finding in my counseling practice with Christians, is that churchgoers who are reporting that they are being tormented by demons DID NOT REALLY GET SAVED WHEN THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY DID!!!!! Besides not understanding repentance in a fullness, I believe that what some professing Christians miss is that a resurrected body is the same body that died,—- the original body that has been made new or “renovated.” A glorified body is never subject to death again.Lazarus was raised from the dead in his “same” body but his body was not glorified because he would die again. Lazarus was not raised immortal.
Ola Cruz was the first client that manifested this problem in 2002. I was her pastor from 1999 to 2002. I was not her deliverance counselor as I had not yet conceived the term “deliverance counseling.” In fact, Ola’s case is what caused me to conceive the term in the first place. For a year, I did not realize that Ola did not understand this concept. When people say “Jesus was raised from the dead,” those who don’t understand are just repeating a memorized phrase that they have accepted. But when you go deeper, those who have been made confused by word of faith teaching will say “Oh, Jesus had a glorified body which means he had a new body.” I ask them “Well what happened to the old body?” Some will say “it was buried, it decomposed, it floated away with his spirit, “I don’t know”or just “it disappeared in some supernatural way, like the work of a magician who pulls a rabbit out of a hat!”
The root of the problem is that they have misunderstood the scripture in Corinthians which says “it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body, and there is a spiritual body.” I cor 15:44. What they don’t understand is that a natural body is physical and a spiritual body is material as well. A natural body is subject to death. A spiritual body is not. A natural body when dead will decompose or be “corruptible.” A spiritual body is raised “incorruptible.” It will never decay. That is the difference between the two. So when I ask the key question, “was Jesus raised as a physical body or was He raised as a spirit, the response will be “He was raised as a spirit.” In spite of the fact that Jesus showed his original yet glorified body to Thomas and said to him “a spirit does not have flesh and bone as I have”, they STILL miss it. A crucial error that will determine where they abide in eternity. I didn’t write this.. Paul did. It is in I Cor 15:17: And if Christ is not risen, your faith is vain (futile) AND YOU ARE STILL IN YOUR SINS. To still be in your sins is to “not be saved or born again.” So if you don’t understand what resurrection means, then how can you believe that “Jesus was risen?” So the logical conclusion is that anyone who does not understand resurrection but came to the Jesus of their understanding IS NOT SAVED!
As both a servant of God and a professional Christian counselor, I really thought that when people said “He is risen,” that they understood what that meant. More than thirty years ago when I myself was unsaved, I understood resurrection because I had no concept at all of what a spirit was. I was all flesh: a two-part being of mind and body. So since I didn’t have an understanding of what the word “spirit” meant, I was never confused into thinking that “to be raised” meant to float away as a spirit. All I knew about resurrection was what I had seen in the movies or heard at Easter. I laughed at this. I said “Christians must think that people are stupid. It is very clear to me that when you are dead you are DEAD and there is no coming back to life.”
On the day that I got born again in my living room, faith to believe that Jesus came back to life in the same body that He died in at the cross literally burst through my mind and I was in a state of shock. After I repented for being a sinner, the resurrection flashed into my mind immediately. Once I went to church and became a minister, I didn’t think that what happened to me was supposed to happen to everyone that got saved, even after I read “confess the Lord Jesus with your mouth AND BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART THAT HE WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD! The Greek word for “heart” is “cardia.” Cardia means “the mind, the emotions, the thoughts and the feelings.” The spiritual heart is a part of the human soul. Once I explain the resurrection to MOST of my clients who have been confused, they become saved prior to dealing with the issues of being set free from demons. . For some, it is immediate, for others, it takes a while. In some cases, the religious spirit is so entrenched in the person, that it must be cast out first so that the person can believe in the resurrection. This was the case of Ola. Practically EVERYTHING that she did that was under the power of a religious demon–a familiar spirit, a spirit of divination: preach, praise the Lord, prophecy, speak in tongues, discern spirits and see into the spirit world, was entirely counterfeited by the religious demon that resides in her. Sometimes Ola herself was like she was “not there.” This is why she had no recall what transpired during deliverance sessions. Since they were taped, she could not deny it once she listened to them.
When you trace their alleged conversion to Christ back to the original source by skillful asking questions during the plowing stage of counseling, the source of the problem is almost always uncovered. For example, when some of my clients came to Christ, they came for the wrong reasons under strange/demonic circumstances. Religious demons “specialize.” There are some who want to do religious things, just like the Pharisees and the Sadducees of Jesus day. Remember the words of the Lord to them?” He said “You will tithe even something as small as a mint. Yet you are like whitewashed tombs, clean on the outside but filled with dead men’s bones. Your are of your Father, the devil. Vipers. A viper is a snake, the snake representing counterfeit religion. Someone posed the following question to me in an email : if a person is operating off of only what they know and have been taught, won’t the Lord make an exception? Wouldn’t that be another “specific” example? In other words, if someone sincerely repents, loves the Lord, and accepts Him as their savior, and they die before they have been TAUGHT and DISCIPLED, wouldn’t the Lord take that into consideration? After all, HE KNOWS THE HEARTS OF MEN, and we don’t, RIGHT?”
This is the exact situation that each and every one of my clients have found themselves in. The Lord has made an exception in each of their cases. He has seen to it that they DO NOT DIE before they have been counseled. Teaching and discipling is a part of the counseling process. The Lord has taken each client’s plight into consideration, by first opening my eyes and instructing me on how to recognize the deception, and how to counsel, teach and disciple him or her. Some have fallen under the category of II Cor 4:3,4: For if our gospel be hid or veiled, it is hidden to those who are lost, whose minds the god of this world has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, which is the image of God, should shine on them. So I will have to cast out the religious demon first, BEFORE the client can be saved.
If I look at this problem from carnal eyes, then I could get discouraged. I can only handle 30 clients at a time and it takes from 3 months to a year per client. I just don’t question God about what He is doing for these kinds of captives. I simply DO MY PART which seems so small that it appears non-existent when you consider how many professing Christians may have already been deceived. God does His part. For example, every one of my clients have had a dream that led them to me or they were surfing the web and found me. I don’t know how many others the Lord is using in like manner to these kinds of captives free. People seeking Christ through the ministry of those who are preaching “another gospel” and presenting “another Jesus” in churches of all kinds and with folk who stay home and watch TBN are becoming mentally, spiritually and even physically bound. People are picking up religious demons at Pentecostal altars, where they have been “tarrying” or “chanting” to receive the Holy Ghost and to speak with other tongues. Some clients ended up with absolutely no control over their bodies. Those I couldn’t help refused to even consider that they were not saved. Once the Pentecostals got a grip on them and they”manifested” the speaking in a tongues, they became super spiritual. inch by inch, the demons took over. The demons spoke through several clients, using their bodies to do various things. .You can read more on this in my book “Faces of the Religious Demon.” (e-book, click here.)
In a strange case of a client I call ” Carol.” Carol is unique because she is obedient, compliant, coherent and willing to do anything to be delivered, which was not the case with others. I see no real fault in her as I have seen in some of the others. She was simply watching TV, responded to a sinner’s prayer through a Mormon sponsored program, then began to feed off of the teachings of mega TV preachers and was guided to a mega church by a vision that was demonically inspired. As it stands, I work with those that I can, and I plant a seed into those that I cannot help, and pray that the Lord will direct them to true Christian who will nurture and water that seed.
For those who refuse to hear, I let them fire me and I shake the dust from my feet and move on to the next captive.
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There are many who practice a professing Christian religion who live under a curse because they have either added to or taken away from the gospel of Jesus Christ. We have found from our own experience that demons are having a field day with professing Catholics, Mormons,(Latter Day Saints) Jehovah Witnesses, Coptics, Christian Scientists and others. When you profess to be a Christian yet Jesus is not Lord and the Holy Spirit is not God in your so-called Christian faith, demons will use this fact against you as an occasion to rule in your life. The demons will be successful because you are practicing a religion that has “added to the gospel.” Others who claim to believe in Jesus Christ associate themselves with cultish groups such as freemasonry or participate in occult practices that are directly or even indirectly linked to the religious rights of non-Christian religions, ie. yoga, transcendental meditation, chanting, reincarnation and the like. In fact, some mainline denominational churches are rapidly embracing what is now called “Christian Yoga.”
To the Galatians, Paul declared it this way, “if any man preach any other gospel, other than what I have preached, let him be cursed.” (Galatians Ch.1:9) Two thousand years have passed since Paul’s rather serious proclamation. I am not a historian, but I would imagine that any religion professing to be Christian that either subtracts or adds to the gospel of Jesus Christ has reaped the fruit of this curse, from one generation to another. Today, there are countless people who are being oppressed and tormented by demons because they are preaching “another gospel.” In counseling, we will lead you to repentance once you have been enlightened. Demons will bow at the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth even among the heathen,–those who have never believed on Him.
Why? Because David declared it this way in Psalm 2. When Jesus Christ was raised from the dead, the Father turned to Him and said “Ask of me anything. and I will give to You, My Son, the heathen for your inheritance.” I believe that Jesus asked the Father to give Him the heathen. So if you are lost and do not have the Lord in your life, Jesus Christ is still your God, whether you believe in Him or not. The problem for you, though, is that even though He has you, you cannot receive Him until the Holy Ghost draws you to the cross and you repent as an unclean sinner. And since “you do not have Jesus”, demons will wipe up the dirty streets of the world with you and those assigned to you will destroy you, despite of the fact that Jesus owns you.
Since Jesus is the one with the keys to hell and death, He will be the one who will incarcerate you in hell for eternity in spite of the fact that He died for you. In fact, I can cast demons from you today and they WILL come out in fear of His name. Even so, Jesus said that they will come back with a fury seven fold stronger than your original state if you do not receive Him as your Lord. (Matthew 12:45) The good news of the gospel is that we can set you free in the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth also. In fact, it is easier to set the heathen free from a non-religious demon than those who are worshipping a false “so-called Christian” god. Those who have experienced His power in setting them free will most often bow to His Lordship and become truly saved.
A word of warning. Just because you have not yet felt the ramifications of the curse, does NOT mean that you have escaped it. It may manifest at the end of your life or even in the lives of your children and grandchildren. For example, Christians in recovery are in danger of the curses and the plagues of the recovery communities teachings and principles about obtaining and maintaining sobriety through the “higher power” principle of 12 Steps. I suggest that you read a rather understandable and concise teaching from the New Idolatry:
“Any doctrine or recovery principle that has broadened the concept og God to include gods or higher powers of one’s own choosing has added to and detracted from the word of God. As Paul warned the Galatians, this is the curse of idolatry. In effect, the real danger for any professing Christian who is engaged in a 12 Step Program is the opening up of a demonic doorway of harassment and torment from evil entities. Perhaps that explains why the un-religious maintain their sobriety with less relapses than do religious churchgoers. For a professing Christian to give homage to a higher power other than Jesus Christ of Nazareth alone as the Mediator to the Father, is a practice inspired by Satan himself.” (pg.80)
Moreover, it has been my experience that religious and witchcraft demons are almost impossible to cast out because they require the captive to disavow the actions of not only their church families but also their own personal family. Most captives refuse to do so and as a consequence, they shall remain bound. Even so, what is impossible with man is possible with God. What you need to know is that God will give you grace, but as James points out, God resists the proud.
Freemasonry is so endemic in the culture and history of the entire organized church, that the plagues and curses associated with it often go un-noticed. As you draw near to God through the humility of repentance, you can cleanse your own hands if you will disavow both your Christian church and those family members who have transgressed through the practice of freemasonry and other forms of witchcraft that have either added to or taken away from the gospel of Jesus Christ. Such an admonition is made to those who enter every church who has added to or taken away from the gospel. For example, those in the word of faith movement have been adding to and taking away from the gospel for the last 3 decades with the prosperity gospel, name it and claim it, and countless other doctrines and teachings. Denominational churches are known for accepting freemasonry, yoga, and forms of worship that counterfeit the Holy Ghost. If you have “been there and done that,” I warn you that the curse is near you. So draw near to God by humbling yourself and admitting your error, and God will give you grace and lift you up out of your bondage. ( James Chapter 4)
I plead the words of the Lord in Rev. Ch 18:4: “Come out of Her, My People, lest you be partakers of her sins and receive of Her plagues. What if Jesus is referring to the organized church? Sheppard’s Counseling Center will provide you with an online minister to mentor you in the comfort of your home. For more info, call 518-477-5759
- Freedom From The Great Falling Away (settingcaptivesfree.wordpress.com)
- The Book of Revelations: Chapter 18:4 (pamsheppard.wordpress.com)
- Protestant Beliefs and Practices That Hinder Salvation (pamsheppard.wordpress.com)
Are you comfortable in the pews? Are you addicted to standing behind a pulpit? I can relate. I tell my story of how the Lord used present day Pharisees to mess with my comfort zone in “Come Out of Her, God’s People.” In a dream, the Lord warned me. He said “Pam, I can’t use you in this place. So sit back and let them PUT YOU OUT!” I thought to myself “How can they put me out? I have been a minister in good standing in this denomination for 25 years!!! Well in 9 months from the day of that dream, my fellow ministers and lay leaders PUT ME OUT!
Perhaps that will be the case for you. But if you are among the elect in endtimes, you must either walk out yourself, or the Lord will allow the devil to use fake Christians to PUSH you out. But out you MUST come out to survive and escape the plagues that are coming upon those still “in the house”!!! My warning to “the lukewarm” is taken from the words of Paul to Timothy and the words of Jesus to the church at Laodicea. We are living in the last days, where some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.
So what is the bottom line to Satan’s not so tender trap? How was the devil able to get into the church, and not only secure a seat in the back row, but actually make his way to the pulpit? Well, through a gradual infiltration that has taken several centuries, Satan finally has his seat in the pulpit. You see, the gateway for the religious demon is “by invitation.” Invitations can be either formal or informal. Whether in ignorance or by design, when a person has made an appeal to Satan’s services by either a formal pact or an informal agreement, that person has unwittingly submitted himself to the powers of darkness..
When signs, wonders and strange religious practices that did not emanate from the Holy Ghost are accepted as divine, a spiritual invitation is made to the fake Jesus. Without hesitation, the fake Jesus pushes his way through the doors of your soul. When sermons are preached by wrenching scriptures out of their context for the purpose of making three points that have nothing to do with repentance, rebirth or the resurrection, an invitation is made to the religious demon. When salvation is taken out of the sovereign calling and election of God and put into the hands of man to “make a decision for Christ” then Satan moved from the backseat into the pulpit. When unsaved people came to church altars “chanting” after speaking in tongues, they invited demons to enter them and countless of these folk are now tormented, almost fully demonized.
As would be expected, the sheep followed the preaching of a distorted gospel, looking for blessings, success, and prosperity to come in the abundant life they are taught that Jesus promised them.They have been seduced into believing that “they have a right to the good life” and all that prosperity entails. Rarely do preachers even mention that serving Jesus Christ can also bring trial, tribulation, trouble and in some cases, even death. Consequently, Satan’s seat has been securred by the gradual elimination of the cross from the gospel preached in most pulpits.
Can Satan be unseated by the organized church?. How can he be? Though short lived, the bible tells us that Satan will have his day, when he officially takes his seat in the endtime synagogue, today called “THE CHURCH!” The organized church is fastly ringing true to her final name, Mystery Babylon. Furthermore, the time for repentance is already OVER, since judgement of the household of faith has already occurred. The remnant within the church shall prevail along with the rest of the 144,000 righteous remnant.
Whether an actual or a literal number, the truth is this. The way to the True Jesus is narrow and straight and the very few are those who enter in and find the real Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the Father. Every one of us who is saved today believed on Jesus Christ through the gospel that the first apostles preached. In this regard, the gates of hell can never make a claim on a born again child of God because any prayer of the Lord’s was answered by the Father.
Therefore, the gates of hell have not and shall not prevail against the saved. The Lord did not pray for the organized church in John 17. He could have, but He didn’t. It was about to be formed. No, Jesus prayed for its first leaders, the 11 Apostles, with Paul being the spiritual replacement for Judas. A serious cause for the confusion over who Jesus was referring to as “the church” is that for centuries, the organized religious system has made no distinction between its own bureaucracy and the eternal body of true believers in Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
In fact, in many churches, it is assumed and presumed that those who regularly attend on Sundays, pay their tithes and offerings, and partake of the means of grace are members in good standing, and therefore they are considered “saved.” This practice began with Catholicism and eventually carried over into the Protestant churches. Nevertheless, the assumption that every one on the church rolls is saved is certainly without scriptural justification.
Some of you might turn to a verse in Ephesians where Paul writes that the Lord is coming back for a church without spot or wrinkle. Charismatics, particularly those who preach “dominion theology,” contend that as long as the organized church is a toothless ole hag in a soiled wedding dress, the Lord is not coming back for her. Dominion theology like those who embrace the Joel Army movement boast of present day apostles who are expected to reform the organized church to cause her to be a presentable bride.
These folk are seriously deceived because there is not one thing that man can do to affect God’s timetable. Some of you “foolish virgins” need to put some oil in your lamps and come to terms with the reality that the Lord is NOT coming back for the organized church in what churchfolk have called “the rapture”. He is coming back for his invisible, eternal kingdom made up of the elect AFTER the Anti-Christ has reigned. Once saved, we no longer have “spots or wrinkles or any such thing” because a bona-fide Christian has been washed in the blood of the Lamb. Once Jesus Christ returns, we all shall finish out the cleansing by the resurrection of our dead bodies or the putting on of immortality by those of us who are alive at His coming, when we who are alive shall meet in the air those who preceded us in death.
This is the gospel of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. There is only one event that I believe determines when the Lord shall come back. I believe He will come back when every name that was written in the Lamb’s book of Life before the foundation of the earth was laid, has heard the gospel and has been led to the cross by the Holy Ghost. Jesus prayed that He would have ALL of the elect. If there is one among the elect who has not yet been born, He will wait on that person hearing the gospel and being drawn to Him by the Holy Ghost. The ministry of the 144,000 will bring in every soul among the chosen of God who is alive just before the Lord’s coming.
In my work as a deliverance counselor, I am being put into contact with too many long-term, faithful churchgoers who are practically demon possessed. A few years ago, this phenomena just did not make sense to me. Simply put, Jesus said that to look at the fruit, one must examine the tree. If the tree is good, then the fruit is good. If the fruit is evil, then the tree must be evil. So based on this simple premise of “you shall know them by their fruit”, why then are faithful churchgoers in so much demonic torment? Good question!!!! After taking a year to study church history, I answer the question in the book “the Fake Jesus: Fallen angels Among Us.”
When I was a good, sincere pastor in a well-known denomination for 25 years, to my dismay, I discovered that those who have been faithful members, followers of my ministry bore no fruit.Yet as I counsel as a professional, Christian therapist on a weekly basis, my clients bear MUCH fruit. Why IS that? Someone can come into telephone counseling with me for 6 months to a year and bare ten times more spiritual fruit than some who have faithfully attended my “church” for 5 years, 10 years and 15 years.
It should also be pointed out there were people in my camp that heard countless sermons and teachings. I have known them personally and been an active figure in their lives, yet spiritual fruit in Christ is non-existent. I believe the Holy Spirit has recently given me my answer. Don’t hold on too tightly to your pew or to your pulpit. Here is the simple, yet profound answer. The passive model of church, where the pastor gets up on a platform, gives “a word” after the choir sings, DOES NOT BEAR FRUIT.
To bare real fruit for Christ, each sheep must be individually fed through counsel, guidance, up front and in your face ministry at least one hour a week, one on one. As the babe grows, the contact can be reduced after a year or so. Once the babe is a mature Christian, then he or she can “feed his or her self and then become a worker in the church to feed new babes.One shepherd can feed about 4 sheep a day, 7 days a week, for about 6 months to a year or about 27 people at a time. If the sheep learn quickly, then this would be about 54 babes a year. As a writer and a trainer, I cannot do a full-time job of counseling sheep. Full time pastoring would consists of 6- 8 sheep a a day for six months or a year.
From my personal background and experience, I can clearly see that the denominations are not working and I have grown to a place where I know that unless there is wide scale repentance within the denominational church, they are coming DOWN!!! I also have known for a while now that the devil has been using the non-denominationals and the Christian cults like the Mormons, but I certainly did not fathom the extent of the problem. Whether it be denominations, non-denominations, Christian television or radio, I finally came to terms with the fact that NONE OF IT IS WORKING!!!!!
Several of my clients have done wrong things— sins of all kinds, witchcraft, incest, you name it but some of my clients have done no wrong. They have lived lives that Christians who are not being tormented by demons should emulate. It is sad to say but there are countless faithful church goers who have been out-and-out deceived by religion and religious people. I can find no excuse to place the blame on the deceived. Today, people are being saved and delivered, one at a time over the telephone. I am available 7 days a week, 4 hours a day allotted to deliverance counseling. But I am only one person. I can only handle 30 clients a week. I am getting closer to the end of my life. I can only make a very small impact. Even if I was a mega preacher, I would not be able to do more than any of the rest of them are doing. So what is the problem? It is the model that we have ALL been using–bringing huge crowds as well as small groups into small and big barns, without repentance, on a “believe and receive” gospel.
Let’s face it and be real here. As a denominational pastor for years, I myself could do absolutely nothing. Yet today, the tide is turning, the Holy Spirit is moving and people are being saved and delivered. My job is very simple. I preach the gospel of repentance and the bodily resurrection of the Lord and the Holy Spirit is moving on hardened hearts to lead people to repent, giving them the faith to believe on Jesus. I am casting out demons—on the telephone, no less–from those who will humble themselves to receive it. This one referenced case has taught me that since the organized church is not working, radio and tv is not working, it would be useless for me to reinvent the wheel cause it wouldn’t work with me either. It hasn’t and it won’t. I don’t know any other models other than working with people one on one. I have been out on the street in street ministry. That DOES work if the basic gospel is being preached and it is not aimed toward bringing people into a church that is going to confuse them.
What I am expecting is that the Lord is going to do a mass thing, around the world, similar to what He did to me and for me. I was an atheist and I was not seeking Him. He came after me in a dream and brought me to the cross without the benefit of man. I was sent to church, not to be nurtured, but that I would understand and perceive the problem and learn what NOT to do about 25 years later. More than two decades of “Church” has not done much for me. As I wrote in the “Come Out of Her, God’s People”, I have remained a root in dry ground. I got a hunger for the word from Kenneth Copeland and others and Joyce Meyer provided some good, solid teaching.
But for the most part, I was attracted to Copeland and the rest of them because they were “supernatural” and my background was in witchcraft. The two were almost an extension of each other and so I found word of faith to be “comfortable”—in other words, charismatic witchcraft. The denominations harmed me in the beginning because they were loose on sin and so until I got grounded on my own and took dominion over my own sin, I fell to carnal ministers. But once I had sexual sin under control, the denominations did not really harm me. They may have hurt my feelings and injured my pride, but they didn’t harm me. They couldn’t harm me because I was saved BEFORE I arrived. Just as the denomination I was in didn’t know the truth, I didn’t know the truth either.
The major point I am making is that the church as it is now operating today is “doing harm” to people who are serious about finding Jesus. For too any churchgoers have contacted me because they were demonized in church!!! And I shudder at the thought. I KNOW the problem. The problem is 200 years old, starting with evangelist like Charles Finney and others. I thought I KNEW the organizational solution. Once, I thought that the answer was in home fellowships, in spite of the many problems that can affect that also. Home churches run by people who have not been deprogrammed from the effects of religion will simply carry the problems of the organized system into home groups.
You see, I really didn’t realize just how much the devil has penetrated the church. I have faith that God is going to raise up endtime pastors who are equipped to feed the sheep and who are empowered to protect them from religious demons. I am simply praying, “Lord, this battle is YOURS and I don’t have a clue as to how you plan to deal with it. You have revealed a portion of MY part in it. Just “cause me to be ready.”
An End of Times Sign: False Conversions
I have been a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ since 1981, yet, I warn you. Church is not only a dangerous place , but around the globe, many churches are actually so dangerous, that people should run from them as if they were about to explode at any minute. I myself will never return for any reason. I explain in detail in “Come Out of Her, God’s People.” I have a pastor’s heart and have functioned in the pastor’s calling for two decades , and I am still a pastor without a visible pulpit. My pulpit is the worldwide web. Anyone, anywhere can send me a message by email, social networks or call me on the phone. I am available for prayer, counseling, teaching, training, personal guidance and deliverance.In fact, I have chased more demons by phone in one year than I did as a pastor in the harlot system for 25 years.
Even so, I personally believe that a person can grow spiritually without regularly attending any organized church. Most definitely, you should assemble with the saints, but the word of God does not lay out a detailed order of service, nor does it suggest the day you should assemble, the time or even the nature of the place or building where gathering together should take place. We live in a computerized world, where we can “assemble” 24 and 7. Simply put, I truly believe that the organized church as it now stands will be completely revamped by the Lord. Why? Because quite frankly, the traditional structures are not working. I myself have no replacements to offer, I closed my own local assembly three years ago.
For 25 years in the organized church as a minister, I was hopeful that repentance would bring about reformation and renewal to the organized church. However, the love of money, which is the root of ALL evil, has permeated most of the church and I seriously doubt if the Lord is going to allow it to continue to exist in its present state. Judgement is swiftly coming and I shudder at what is going to happen to church and to churchgoers. There are plagues for those who do not “come out of Her.”
My suspicion that the age of the organized church is either over or very close to ending has been growing over time. There is one startling fact.— I emphasize a crucial, damnable sign of the end of the gentile age. The bottom of the bottom line is that souls are not being saved in the organized church. What is really troublesome is that I am finding that even the best churches can be hazardous, primarily because subtle deception is actually held in place by the sincerity and the commitment of its leadership. To be sincerely wrong can be almost as deadly as being obviously deceived or purposefully deceptive.
In order to understand the nature of end times, we need to have a general insight on “what has been goin on.” I have read newsletters, articles and books written by well-meaning sisters and brothers that are too complicated for the average Christian. We have some very intelligent people in the remnant church—real deep, scholarly thinkers. The problem is that as they major on each individual tree, our minds are overrun with too many thoughts, too many ideas.
To get a picture of “what’s goin on” , it is important that we consider the intense significance of the fact that man was made a little lower than the angels. As are angels, we too are created beings. The highest created being was Lucifer, as there was no creature superior to him. Beneath Lucifer were the rest of the angelic creation: cherubim and seraphim, the archangels, principalities and powers, the lower angels and demons. The bible also suggests that there were other living creatures on earth who themselves fell at the time of Lucifer’s rebellion. It is believed that their disembodied spirits make up the lower class of demons. Of this, no one is sure. All we know is that no matter the class of demon, in the Name of Jesus, we can “cast them out from people.”
However, demons cannot be cast out of the organized church because the leadership will not repent for practical reasons that I call the 5 “P’s”. It has too much to lose. Position–self images are in jeopardy. Power—too many enjoy ruling over others. Prestige–vanity relishes in the exaltation of people. Pride–puffed up preachers will not admit to doctrinal error. Prosperity–too many livelihoods depend upon tithes and offerings. No one will risk financial stability in hard times.
The dire situation of the visible church is like a run away train. To stop, it must crash.
And crash, it will.
BREAK YOUR SOUL TIE TO “HER!”
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