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LGBTQ: There is No Such Thing As a Gay Christian!

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Recently, I wrote an article in defense of the recent incident involving Kim Burrell, and I was attacked by a churchgoing Christian member of the LGBTQ community.  Originally, Sam (his name has been changed,) did not reveal that he was gay. BUt as the email thread continued, he “came out” as a homosexual Christian who speaks in tongues and believes he is gifted by the Holy Ghost. The thread is long because I refused to be bullied by Sam, once he commanded that I stop answering his emails.  I let him know that if he continued to write to me, I would continue to respond.  I pointed out that the way to stop the thread was on him.  Simply put, once Sam stopped writing these nasty, mean-spirited emails, I too would stop commenting because I would have nothing to respond to.  

Sam’s  stubbornness was strong.  Finally,  he stopped writing. The thread is way too long so I will summarize most of it.  Nevertheless, reading Sam’s   own words is very revealing not only about Sam, but about LGBTQ and the church’s failure in dealing with this community from a Christian perspective!

Here is Sam’s first contact letter and my response:

Sam:  I read what you said about that Kim woman….. being gay is not a choice, but judging and being a bigot is…… You need to do some deep reading of the org text, not the King James……. your as blind as Kim is….. I pray God reveals your hate you have in your heart….. I am a holy ghost filled christian and something is not right about what you have said…. you made no sense…… Paul is the one who said being gay was a sin right? so he was in jail with a slave….and return that slave to his “christian” owner……. but we wouldnt have that today? Women keep silent in the church….. how can she see the sin in others eyes for the “fat” in her own….. our bodies a temple of the holy ghost? she is overweight wears big gaudy jewelry….. so many things wrong with this…. gays will be in heaven and hell… but all bigots and hyprocrites will be in hell…. straight and gay…….. You need deliverance my friend…….. I come against everything that you would say against me in the Name of Jesus….. nothing you say will touch me in Jesus Name…

ME:  SAm, you are doing exactly what I wrote about in the article. You are discrediting the preacher in an attempt to nullify the message. So what if she is fat? SO what if she wears big earrings? Does those facts make what she preaches WRONG? 

BTW! Kim has lost 100 pounds. This means she knows she has a problem and she has done something about it. She is not in denial of her own issues. Being overweight is not a sin in the same sense as is homosexuality. Just because a person is fat does not make them a glutton. To judge is to past sentence and to implement it. To tell a homosexual that God hates the sin does not mean that He does not love them. It is up to the individual to make a change. The truth is the truth. GOd wiped out an entire nation because of it. That is why homosexuals are also called Sodomites. God wiped out Sodom. You can’t remove that from the bible, Sir. My intent is not to call you names or to hurt you. I will say that you are seriously deceived and I have nothing else to say to you in that regard. 

WEll, Sam continue to accuse, stereotype and condemn me.  He called me bigoted, homophobic, a fake Christian and a witch.  HE taunted me, in an attempt to manipulate  me into defending my ministry as a woman.  Ironically, Sam stood his ground that God does not call women  into ministry because it’s a man’s job.  MY response was that he is not born again. HE was outraged. 

SAm:   You tell me I am not born again? ….. right there tells me you’re a liar……. You’re teaching a false doctrine…a cult…… I have no rebellion in my life……. I live a very spirit fille life.

and yes spirit filled  people do pray in the spirit…. speak in tongues…. signs and wonders will follow them that believe….. you should know the verse……….God did not set a woman to be a preacher over a church…that goes against the way he set this world up….. women keep silent in the church…but you don’t want to hear that do you?

  Christians owned slaves in the bible……. we would not do that today would we? I will continue to pray against your false teaching and doctrine of devils……. 

 You will burn in hell for your lies…….. Jesus is God in the flesh…… I rebuke anything you would cast on me…… your more into magic I believe and falseness…. Full of Satan and his lies….. Get thee behind ME Satan and you too Pamela you vessel of the enemy.

 

Then I wrote an email that stopped Sam in  his tracks.  I have not heard from him since. Christians need to come to terms with the fact that normalizing the LGBTQ lifestyle is a denial of Christ Himself.  This is my last message to Sam:

Sam, I tell you the truth. GOd saves homosexuals. no doubt!!!!  But when He does, they no longer want to be homosexuals. 

You know them by their fruits. You are in rebellion. REbellion is as the sin of witchcraft. So you are the pot calling the kettle black. You are the witch. not me. 

Your change  may not happen instantly. But it will happen. If you are saved, then change is in your future. However, If you have been born again for more than 3-5 years, and you have not come to terms with the lust, perversion and lasciviousness in your life, then you are not born again.

WHY? If you are born again, then the Holy Spirit lives in you. He will convict you of your sin. You are NOT convicted. That is why you are not born again. Simple.

Your response to me is to counterattack. I don’t take part in that. It’s just not my style. ALso, I will not defend my ministry to you. I never defend my ministry to those who don’t understand the scripture they quote. DOnt have to. I let my fruits speak for me. You keep writing me and you can’t seem to stop. ASk yourself why that is.  That devil spirit in YOU is OUTRAGED. YOU CANT STOP WRITING me.  You wish you had more info about me so that you could finger point more effectively, with precision and belittle me as you did in your comments about Kim Burrell. YOu would like to know if I am fat or ugly. SORRY! I look at least 20 years younger than I am. 

Sam,   YOU WOULD LOVE TO HURT ME BUT YOU CAN’T. You have a vengeful spirit of retaliation against anyone who disagrees with your lifestyle. That quality in  you is the tip-off. Your behavior toward those who opposed your lifestyle is in itself “not of Christ.”” My take is that your accusatory statements are not surprising to me as your father is the main accuser of the brethren. 

But I tell you this. I have been born again for 40 years this March 29. It was a Monday, at 4 pm. So I recognize a truly born again person when I see them. You have no respect. You are hateful and mean-spirited. 

One of my most beloved online members, Eric, was gay since he was about 5 when he was sexually abused by a male relative. At 43, he got born again once he became a member of  this ministry.  I did not save him.  God did Himself.  

 I did not have to tell Eric that homosexuality is sin.  The Holy Spirit revealed it all to him. Convicted Eric and caused him to repent. I worked with him in his struggles. When Eric fell, I was there for him, without judgement. I helped him to get back up on his feet. You see, Eric  wanted to be clean. It was just IN HIM. God cleansed Him over a years time. 

And  there are others. Several others. The blood of Jesus cleansed them from all sin. Some are celibate, preferring to never have sex than to be gay. Others are with women. I don’t have much ministerial experience with lesbians. 

Believe it or not, gay men love me. I loved gay men before LGBTQ was even heard of. I had 3 gay men as best friends before I became born again.  Eric is now my best friend. There is no one I love or respect more than Eric. 

The problem is that the world has normalized homosexuality.  I believe the LGBTQ members should have equal rights in all ways.  Yet, even though I take no efforts to hinder your freedom, sin is sin.  If fornication and  adultery—sex between straight people , is sin in God’s mind, do you really thing that sex between gay and lesbians is NOT sin?  It just isn’t logical. 

I agree with the author of an article called Normalizing Homosexuality:

How about the church? One of the saddest things to see in America today is the infiltration of gay ministers and pastors in churches, along with the growing openness to homosexuality in Christian churches. I did not say ‘openness to homosexuals’; we should be loving and compassionate toward any and every sinner. I said “openness to homosexuality” meaning it has become rationalized not only in culture, but also in some churches. It is the rise of apostasy: gay churches and leadership that preach accommodation and community instead of the conviction of sin. These deceived people are glossing over homosexuality and are not helping those in bondage… [I am not even sure if they know the Bible.]

Pastor Joe Schimmel of Good Fight Ministries shared some thought-provoking truths:

“We need to distance ourselves from two extremes regarding homosexuality. One extreme is the ‘God hates fags’ crowd, who treat homosexual behavior as the unforgivable sin. The other extreme to taking a cavalier attitude toward homosexuality, and fail to recognize that the Scriptures teach that sexual sin is destructive in a way that other sins are not (1 Cor. 6:18).”

RESCUE is a ministry that demonstrates the love of Christ for LGBTQ by our willingness to not allow a fear of verbal attacks and spiritual abuse from those we are called to serve hinder or obstruct our work for the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.  We work with all who struggle with sin.  If you are looking for such a fellowship that will  stand before God and the devil on your behalf, complete the contact form below:

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Kim Burrell: Bullied And Labelled Homophobic!

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Paul the Apostle was clear when he wrote that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.  This is why none of us can save ourselves by repeating a sinner’s prayer, performing good works or “accepting Jesus.”  Not only do we sin with our behavior but we sin with our thoughts.  So prior to being born again,  we can’t even keep track of our sins.

Consequently,   keeping this spiritual fact in mind, why can’t  the LGBTQ community and its supporters and advocates simply accept the  fact that besides other sins, same gender sex is sin?

What I perceive in this emotional outcry against Kim Burrell simply  exercising her right as a preacher to sermonize  in a Christian pulpit where she has the authority  in accordance with the word of God,  is sin within itself—  not only of blatant   bullying, but Paul described it in yet another way. He wrote, “the carnal mind is at enmity with God.” 

So true. There is a built-in, natural opposition between God  and all human beings.  Until God causes us by the Holy Spirit to be born again, we remain  lost heathens, separated and alienated from God, without the capacity to discern  sin from righteousness. Simply put, we love what God hates and we hate what God loves.  This enmity is really rebellious opposition  to the truth. Commentaries have evolved in an unrighteous protest .  In fact, Arguments against Kim Burrell are  illogical, hysterical bullying , armed    with projection, finger-pointing and illogical defenses. Circular arguments overshadow  the main issue of homosexuality by  the willful rebellion of hardened hearts who deny God’s word by labeling Kim  and all non-supporters as “homophobic.”

Here is the truth that the Apostle Paul wrote on this matter in 1Corinthians 6:9

New King James: Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters nor adulterers, nor homosexuals nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revelers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God!

Now is that not plain?

But what does it mean?

It certainly does NOT mean that if you fit any of those categories of sinners that God won’t draw you to Himself and save you. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT ALL SUCH FOLK ARE GOING TO HELL.  IF THAT WERE SO, I WOULD BE AMONG THEM.   You see,  the very next verse is also clear.  Paul was addressing Corinthian believers when he boldly states “and such WERE some of you.  But you were washed, but you were sanctified but you were justified in the Lord Jesus by the Spirit of our God.

Unfortunately, once you steadfastly defend and uphold   a lifestyle that is completely oppositional to the word of God, as you manipulatively fight the truth with  defensive rhetoric to support your choice,  the LGBTQ community has actually  boxed itself in to a perpetual rebellion against the word of God and against the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.  If you deny His death, then you deny the power of His blood to cleanse you.  His resurrection and the power of His blood to  save your spirit and  to deliver you from all the power of the enemy.

When ANYONE reveals to you the truth according to the  word of God, why must you label them “homophobic?”

To be phobic is to be afraid.  I fear no one but God.

I have never been hostile to the LGBT community. Back in the 60’s, I liked homosexual men better than I liked women, so I have had at least 3 gay best friends over the years. .

Here is the deal.  If you have a skill, I will hire you, regardless of your lifestyle. .  Just don’t try to force your LBGTQ agenda  down my throat while you are fixing my plumbing or designing my clothes.   My stand is  that sexual orientation should not enter the equation of work or business. .  Kim Burrell made the mistake of “going along to get along.” LBGTQ is very skilled at causing straight folk to compromise and hide from them what they really believe. My position is loving but strong.   I will not compromise the word of God  to make ANYBODY feel good about themselves and their choices. I will leave you alone and not preach to you unless YOU ask me to.  But if you try to impose your belief system  upon me, you will get your feelings hurt.

For examplei f I had a gay family member, I would not reject him or her.  Yet I would not fellowship with  that relative as part of a   gay couple. As an example, I would not accept a dinner invitation with my relative and her partner together as a couple.  One on one activities with that relative would occur, as long as issues pertaining to LGBT are not pre-eminent.   By example, in all my relationships, i tend to establish boundaries as to what I can and cannot do. And it is not personal.  After all, I don’t fellowship with adulterers, extortioners, thieves, drunkards, idolaters,  in short , none of the people who fit the categories of 1 Cor 6:9.

Kim Burrell is between a rock and a hard place, not only in the entertainment industries but also in the church.  For after all, was it not a churchperson, a secret enemy, who ratted her out and posted her sermon video  on social media?

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There is a lot of confusion about sin and related subjects,  not only from the lost but from Churchgoers as well.  The bible predicts that in these times, people will die from fear, phobias of all kinds.  People are afraid of going to  hell, fearful of having committed the unpardonable sin, hearing fearful voices, seeing demons in visions, afraid of predictions they received from psychics and false prophets, and so many other things, too numerous to mention. If you need help, complete the contact form below.

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Homosexuality, the Word of God and Kim Burrell

For those of you who do not know what happened, Kim Burrell has been heading toward fame as a jazz- Christian singer. She is about to be on the Ellen DeGeneres show. I learned today that Ellen cancelled Kim Burrell’s appearance on her show.

Kim Burrell arrives at the Staples Center for the 54th Grammy Awards in Los Angeles, California, February 12, 2012. AFP PHOTO  Joe KLAMAR (Photo credit should read JOE KLAMAR/AFP/Getty Images)

Kim Burrell arrives at the Staples Center for the 54th Grammy Awards in Los Angeles, California, February 12, 2012. AFP PHOTO Joe KLAMAR (Photo credit should read JOE KLAMAR/AFP/Getty Images)

Well, Burrell is also a preacher, started her own church in 2010. In a recent sermon preached at her church, she called homosexuality a sin in a rather bold and strong way. Someone in the congregation must have video taped her and put it on the web, and it went viral. The LGBTQ community is in a huff, and she has been called out by lots a folk, both gay and straight, particularly from her peers, including the likes of Shaka Kahn, Janelle Monae, and Pharrell.

The problem is that Burrell   is a carnal Christian, appearing to me to be serving  two masters, and BOTH masters are of the world where Satan is the god. Actually, she is serving ONE master with two opposing agendas, the Institutional church and the music industry. Clearly she works with gays, fellowships with them, benefits from their community and they feel betrayed. Nevertheless, though quite wild and graphic,  everything she  preached is  correct and righteous.

I watched Burrell’s video response to the viral outrage.

I must say that I like her. She is a sweet person. I also  like her boldness and her courage.  Nevertheless, Kim Burrell is   deceived. In her  response, my spirit discerns that  she  loves  gay people  but the rest of her response was without wisdom and spiritual knowledge. . The outraged folk now perceive her as  a hypocritical phony, and they are hell-bent to destroy her music career.

I think I can help you Kim  to gain some perspective as to what may be going on here.

THIS IS NOT SATAN!!!!

GOD WANTS YOU OUT OF BOTH THE CHURCH WORLD AND THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY.

The Internet reveals that your net worth is 5 million dollars.  With that kind of money, you can live the rest of your life prospering so take the money and run!!!!I  speak from experience.

I have been a minister for 35 years, born again for 40 years.  When I was an atheist back in the 60’s, I openly and freely had gay friends when such behavior was totally unacceptable to that world. Since I was an atheist back then, I had no contact with the church world.  Once I got to church in 1979, I found a lot of hypocrisy where sins of all kinds are concerned, including down-low homosexuality and lesbianism within not only the sheepfold but the pastors. Like  you, Kim,  I was bold enough to preach the word of God against perversions of all kinds. I created many church enemies.  It did me no good nor the people any good because church folk  really don’t take seriously  a preacher who exposes sin.

This is the reality of the world we live in today, for the church has been a part of the world for centuries now. The sin of homosexuality is merely one in a bagful of sins.  The church is equally as sinful as the music, TV and movie  industry. As the god of this world, Satan is trying to unite ALL of his kingdom’s together.

So what is happening to you Kim, is a message from God.

You cannot mix Christ with Belial!!! This is YOUR sin. 

 So understand that the people are being unmerciful to you because it is God who has hardened their hearts in order to save you from being among THEM, and I am not just referring to LGBTQ but the entire Christian music industry and the institutional church, the end-time Harlot. .   If singing MUST be  your career, then take Christ out of it and go and sing jazz, the blues  or whatever. I listened to you today and I would put you in a class with Sarah Vaughn, or Lena Horne.  They did well without the institutional church.

You have enough money to do whatever you want to do as long as you take control over your finances. With that kind of money, you are set for life.

When people come against you like this Kim, it is because you are a chosen vessel of God.  If you were of them, they would cut you some slack and love you. But their hatred is a sign that you belong to Jesus.

SO COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM, GURL!

 

I personally believe that those who want to be delivered from any  perversion can do so in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.  Deliverance is a major component of my ministry.  so if you need help, complete the contact form below.

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How to Counsel Gays and Lesbians from a Christian Perspective Part 1

Counseling Gays and Lesbians from a Christian Perspective Part 1.

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ARE THERE GAY AND LESBIAN CHRISTIANS?

The answer to that question is “yes” and “no.”

Dealing with the affirmative, the Holy Ghost will save “whosoever He wills.”  From a murderer on death row to a pedophile, God saves to the uttermost.  The blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth  washes away the stain of sin from the lost regardless of how they have lived and whatever they may have done.  So without a doubt, the Lord saves gays and lesbians.

Now, to the negative.  Once the homosexual is saved, then according to the scriptures, he or she is no longer identified or labeled  by their sexual sin. All things are passed away.  All things have become new.  Just like fornicators once saved don’t go about calling themselves, “a fornicating Christian,” there is no such thing as a gay or lesbian Christian.

Check out what Paul wrote to the Corinthians.  First he tells them that if they continue in their former ways and lifestyle that they shall NOT inherit the kingdom of God.  The list is long, including idolaters,  fornicators, adulterers and those who participate in homosexuality.  (I Corinthians 6:9-12.)

Then Paul  points out that some of them, now born again WERE  ONCE homosexuals  BUT Paul writes:

“YOU ARE WASHED,—- CLEANSED BY A COMPLETE ATONEMENT FOR SIN AND MADE FREE FROM THE GUILT OF IT!!!”

In a nutshell, homosexuals who become born again are “no longer gays and lesbians.”  They are Christians. They have been justified or pronounced righteous by the Lord Jesus Himself!!!  As such they are no longer to be the slave of “anything” or “brought under its power.”

So after a homosexual is truly born again, a change has occurred in his or her spirit.  The soul and the body may have other ideas.  Here is what I have to say about THAT! My  belief is that a change in orientation is possible, as long as the former gay or lesbian   desires to change and is

If you are "in Christ," then you are no longer gay. You are set free by His blood!

dedicated to do so. In Christ, all things are possible.   The emotional scars from the past may still persist and therefore  may take considerable time to heal.  Those who are truly dedicated to Christ will obey Him, ie.  if thy right hand offend you, cut it off.”  In other words, even though a gay or a lesbian  may desire to sleep with someone of his or her own gender, we as Christians do not follow the desires of our flesh.  Heterosexual fornicators are in a similar position.  The unmarried are to be celibate or to marry.  Homosexuals have the same two choices.  However, if they marry, it must be to someone of the opposite sex.

Any homosexual who claims to be saved will agree with the bible that ALL sex outside of marriage is sin.  Therefore, if they continue to desire same gender sex, they must crucify that desire.

No one loves orgasm more than I do.  However, my obedience to Christ as a single woman with sexual desire  has caused me to put sex behind me and press on without it.  After all, I can live without an orgasm.

So can  a gay or a lesbian.

If you cannot, then I suggest to you that “you are NOT born again.” 

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